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		<title>By: jasmine jones</title>
		<link>http://www.ambercabral.com/2010/04/soul-detroit/comment-page-1/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>jasmine jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 01:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is awesome girl. I am so tired of arguing with folks. Detroit is always gonna be home to me. Everyone frowns when Detroit is brought up.  My stepmother even had the nerve to take off all of her fake ass gold....talmbout somebody gon steal it. lmao.  

good post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is awesome girl. I am so tired of arguing with folks. Detroit is always gonna be home to me. Everyone frowns when Detroit is brought up.  My stepmother even had the nerve to take off all of her fake ass gold&#8230;.talmbout somebody gon steal it. lmao.  </p>
<p>good post!</p>
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		<title>By: Bre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 21:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I left Detroit 2 years ago and while I do miss it, I know I could never live there again. I hate what has happend to the city but I do believe that us native Detroiters have a strong sense of pride. As much as I complained about Detroit whenever someone here dogs out Detroit I get upset and defensive of the same place I once bashed...It&#039;s just in our blood...lol. Great blog! I rock my Detroit Soul shirt often. I am indeed proud to be from Detroit.

Bre
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I left Detroit 2 years ago and while I do miss it, I know I could never live there again. I hate what has happend to the city but I do believe that us native Detroiters have a strong sense of pride. As much as I complained about Detroit whenever someone here dogs out Detroit I get upset and defensive of the same place I once bashed&#8230;It&#8217;s just in our blood&#8230;lol. Great blog! I rock my Detroit Soul shirt often. I am indeed proud to be from Detroit.</p>
<p>Bre<br />
Washington DC</p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 17:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel Atlanta is one big party town. That&#039;s what they have predominantly here: let&#039;s go hang and get a few drinks. I have had some good encounters, Soul Summit Weekend was nice, although not as organized as it shoulda been. Still nice. But things are very surface here. It feels like a city of transplants, which it is, and I don&#039;t like that emptiness. Just my opinion in comparison to other cities I&#039;ve experienced. Fun place, but I&#039;m passing through. Will be back, but not staying.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel Atlanta is one big party town. That&#8217;s what they have predominantly here: let&#8217;s go hang and get a few drinks. I have had some good encounters, Soul Summit Weekend was nice, although not as organized as it shoulda been. Still nice. But things are very surface here. It feels like a city of transplants, which it is, and I don&#8217;t like that emptiness. Just my opinion in comparison to other cities I&#8217;ve experienced. Fun place, but I&#8217;m passing through. Will be back, but not staying.</p>
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		<title>By: Theo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What areas of Atlanta have you visited? I understand that the black experience in every city is unique, but I think Atlanta has that.  But perhaps I am biased.

Also of note, you did this from your iPhone (let the iPhone detractors take note...lol)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What areas of Atlanta have you visited? I understand that the black experience in every city is unique, but I think Atlanta has that.  But perhaps I am biased.</p>
<p>Also of note, you did this from your iPhone (let the iPhone detractors take note&#8230;lol)</p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny that many of the things you describe are almost identical to activities in Detroit. And much of your list I have experienced since I got here. Even the live music and Fox Theater. I travelled back and forth between Detroit and ATL for several months first and have been living in Atlanta since September. In 7 months I have ventured to experience things that give ATL the richness I&#039;ve heard of and that deep people of color experience and I have barely felt it. I&#039;ve lived in and visited many other places, none as cripple as Detroit is now, and I sensed or experienced that city&#039;s culture almost immediately. The unity, the depth of the history. DC is a perfect example. I&#039;m not saying ATL has had nothing to shake it&#039;s historical hat at, I just feel that the intrinsic value of culture and said things here in ATL is significantly less than Detroit &amp; other cities I&#039;ve lived in or visited.  People are too caught up in the &quot;newness.&quot; This experience, because of what it has lacked it what has made me recognize what I initially didn&#039;t about Detroit. 

As I have said to you on Twitter, I like Atlanta. I have fun here. But it has definitely birthed a feeling about my hometown that would have otherwise gone incubated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny that many of the things you describe are almost identical to activities in Detroit. And much of your list I have experienced since I got here. Even the live music and Fox Theater. I travelled back and forth between Detroit and ATL for several months first and have been living in Atlanta since September. In 7 months I have ventured to experience things that give ATL the richness I&#8217;ve heard of and that deep people of color experience and I have barely felt it. I&#8217;ve lived in and visited many other places, none as cripple as Detroit is now, and I sensed or experienced that city&#8217;s culture almost immediately. The unity, the depth of the history. DC is a perfect example. I&#8217;m not saying ATL has had nothing to shake it&#8217;s historical hat at, I just feel that the intrinsic value of culture and said things here in ATL is significantly less than Detroit &#038; other cities I&#8217;ve lived in or visited.  People are too caught up in the &#8220;newness.&#8221; This experience, because of what it has lacked it what has made me recognize what I initially didn&#8217;t about Detroit. </p>
<p>As I have said to you on Twitter, I like Atlanta. I have fun here. But it has definitely birthed a feeling about my hometown that would have otherwise gone incubated.</p>
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		<title>By: Theo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I appreciate your description of the culture in Detroit, I believe that the description of Atlanta is inaccurate.  Saying the city has no spirit is a gross exaggeration.  Atlanta has significant cultural impact in the south and around the country.  Many aspects of the culture have been implemented elsewhere (our slang and music for example).  The argument regarding our historic buildings and landmarks has little merit. Even the government recognizes historic sites that many still hold dear: http://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/atlanta/sitelist.htm

In your definition of culture you speak about pride for one&#039;s hometown (which you couldn&#039;t feel for Atlanta, obviously), which I feel immensely for Atlanta.  When I lived there (now I live in Columbus, OH), I was able to experience many things that gave me pride for my city: 1996 Summer Olympics, the Braves, having a black mayor, MLK, the Zoo, East Point and College Park, FOX theatre, Q-time, Soul Vegetarian, and many festivals and unique aspects of Atlanta life (slang, etc.).  Atlanta has many things that are new and several that haven&#039;t changed for years.  Many old churches, new cathedrals, unique parks, and even a ridiculous love for peaches and all things related to them.

Atlanta has even been called the new Motown (no offense to the actual Motown) of the south due to the large number of black music companies that sprung up there in the 1990s.

On behalf of my city, I&#039;d like to apologize for not impressing upon you our culture in six months or less.  However, I&#039;d ask that you hold your opinion until you&#039;ve spent more time there.  It is unfair to compare your new city to your hometown. The new city can never compare to a lifetime of experience in your original city.

No offense to Detroit or your blog, but I think that both cities have a very unique and diverse history and culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I appreciate your description of the culture in Detroit, I believe that the description of Atlanta is inaccurate.  Saying the city has no spirit is a gross exaggeration.  Atlanta has significant cultural impact in the south and around the country.  Many aspects of the culture have been implemented elsewhere (our slang and music for example).  The argument regarding our historic buildings and landmarks has little merit. Even the government recognizes historic sites that many still hold dear: <a href="http://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/atlanta/sitelist.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/atlanta/sitelist.htm</a></p>
<p>In your definition of culture you speak about pride for one&#8217;s hometown (which you couldn&#8217;t feel for Atlanta, obviously), which I feel immensely for Atlanta.  When I lived there (now I live in Columbus, OH), I was able to experience many things that gave me pride for my city: 1996 Summer Olympics, the Braves, having a black mayor, MLK, the Zoo, East Point and College Park, FOX theatre, Q-time, Soul Vegetarian, and many festivals and unique aspects of Atlanta life (slang, etc.).  Atlanta has many things that are new and several that haven&#8217;t changed for years.  Many old churches, new cathedrals, unique parks, and even a ridiculous love for peaches and all things related to them.</p>
<p>Atlanta has even been called the new Motown (no offense to the actual Motown) of the south due to the large number of black music companies that sprung up there in the 1990s.</p>
<p>On behalf of my city, I&#8217;d like to apologize for not impressing upon you our culture in six months or less.  However, I&#8217;d ask that you hold your opinion until you&#8217;ve spent more time there.  It is unfair to compare your new city to your hometown. The new city can never compare to a lifetime of experience in your original city.</p>
<p>No offense to Detroit or your blog, but I think that both cities have a very unique and diverse history and culture.</p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 07:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chip;
Let me open with this fact: Atlanta is not without many of the same &quot;issues&quot; Detroit has, the main difference is that Detroit&#039;s are far more publicized.  Saying that to say two things: First, everyone in Detroit is not suffering.  Second, this post was not a knock on Atlanta, so much as it was a boost for Detroit.  Because much like your comment suggests, people think ALL DETROIT IS, IS WHAT YOU SEE ON THE NEWS, which isn&#039;t true. We are richer than that.  

Conversely, it has been my experience that Atlanta is far more superficial than I imagined and while it may have once been the very culture rich capital of the south, it is now a city enveloped in image, artificiality and gentrification.  Let me be clear: I like Atlanta. It is not a place I want to raise my [future] family.

Nothing is wrong with Atlanta getting money, and don&#039;t doubt that Detroit is making the same efforts. However, it&#039;s the values here in ATL (in this post, occasionally referenced as soul) that clash against mine, not their effort to grow economically [&amp; Detroit is not??] as you so eloquently tried to reduce my statements to.  Yes, I feel at home in Detroit, yes, I connect more to Metro Detroit - but it is not because I am addicted to or attracted to poverty or a struggle.  It is because it is my home and I care, likely because, as you stated, I can connect with the culture there.  Culture that seems absent here in ATL.  &quot;Seems.&quot; Same word I used in my post to indicate that I do not detect any [doesn’t mean it is absent]- I welcome any local or native to show me otherwise.  After all I am here for a spell and have been exploring since I arrived.

I have fun in Atlanta, and it definitely has its share of opportunity.  However, declining to be abused by its poor layout, stark racism and pretentious venues does not mean that I am not interested in opportunity or success.  It just means I am interested in opportunity and success that benefit more than just myself.  I care about the place from which I sprang and the opportunity to see it grow and develop.

I do not expect everyone to have the same allegiance.  We are after all, in a nation that promotes and thrives on individual success and competition.  Often without regard to how it affects our fellow human beings.

Thanks for the well wishes, and I welcome any introduction to Atlanta culture you have to offer.
Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chip;<br />
Let me open with this fact: Atlanta is not without many of the same &#8220;issues&#8221; Detroit has, the main difference is that Detroit&#8217;s are far more publicized.  Saying that to say two things: First, everyone in Detroit is not suffering.  Second, this post was not a knock on Atlanta, so much as it was a boost for Detroit.  Because much like your comment suggests, people think ALL DETROIT IS, IS WHAT YOU SEE ON THE NEWS, which isn&#8217;t true. We are richer than that.  </p>
<p>Conversely, it has been my experience that Atlanta is far more superficial than I imagined and while it may have once been the very culture rich capital of the south, it is now a city enveloped in image, artificiality and gentrification.  Let me be clear: I like Atlanta. It is not a place I want to raise my [future] family.</p>
<p>Nothing is wrong with Atlanta getting money, and don&#8217;t doubt that Detroit is making the same efforts. However, it&#8217;s the values here in ATL (in this post, occasionally referenced as soul) that clash against mine, not their effort to grow economically [&amp; Detroit is not??] as you so eloquently tried to reduce my statements to.  Yes, I feel at home in Detroit, yes, I connect more to Metro Detroit &#8211; but it is not because I am addicted to or attracted to poverty or a struggle.  It is because it is my home and I care, likely because, as you stated, I can connect with the culture there.  Culture that seems absent here in ATL.  &#8220;Seems.&#8221; Same word I used in my post to indicate that I do not detect any [doesn’t mean it is absent]- I welcome any local or native to show me otherwise.  After all I am here for a spell and have been exploring since I arrived.</p>
<p>I have fun in Atlanta, and it definitely has its share of opportunity.  However, declining to be abused by its poor layout, stark racism and pretentious venues does not mean that I am not interested in opportunity or success.  It just means I am interested in opportunity and success that benefit more than just myself.  I care about the place from which I sprang and the opportunity to see it grow and develop.</p>
<p>I do not expect everyone to have the same allegiance.  We are after all, in a nation that promotes and thrives on individual success and competition.  Often without regard to how it affects our fellow human beings.</p>
<p>Thanks for the well wishes, and I welcome any introduction to Atlanta culture you have to offer.<br />
Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: KB</title>
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		<dc:creator>KB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 04:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chip Morton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chip Morton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 03:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post reminded me of the conversations I&#039;ve had with people who say that they stay in the projects because they appreciate how much more &quot;real&quot; it is.  I was always content to trade in some amount of my &quot;realness&quot; for a bit more opportunity...I couldn&#039;t really understand people who did differently.

Admittedly, I&#039;m from Atlanta, so a lot of the criticisms you level against the city here don&#039;t strike me as bad points at all.  Quite the contrary, if Atlanta were *not* trying to get money and improve our standing in the country/world, I would think we were doing something wrong.  I would certainly move to impeach any elected official who told me that we didn&#039;t need economic growth because we had &quot;soul.&quot;

Back in the early nineties when South Central L.A.  was all the rage in music and movies, I&#039;d look at the depictions of senseless street violence and think to myself &quot;Why would anyone with a choice want to live like that?&quot;  And yet I met many relocated gang members who would wax poetically about how they missed the lifestyle and were it not for family/jail/baby, they would never have left.

I can only speak from my perspective, but none of that resonates with me.  Being able to keep your dignity in hard times is an asset, but I see no virtue in suffering for suffering&#039;s sake.  But just because I can&#039;t see the appeal in a certainly lifestyle doesn&#039;t mean that there is none.

And I suspect the same goes for you.  Atlanta&#039;s culture doesn&#039;t resonate with you as strongly as Detroit&#039;s does, but that doesn&#039;t mean that Atlanta has no culture.  And it doesn&#039;t mean that those of us who find our niche here are any less resilient or soulful.  

I wish you the best in your relocation back to &quot;The D.&quot;  (Motown for us noobz.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post reminded me of the conversations I&#8217;ve had with people who say that they stay in the projects because they appreciate how much more &#8220;real&#8221; it is.  I was always content to trade in some amount of my &#8220;realness&#8221; for a bit more opportunity&#8230;I couldn&#8217;t really understand people who did differently.</p>
<p>Admittedly, I&#8217;m from Atlanta, so a lot of the criticisms you level against the city here don&#8217;t strike me as bad points at all.  Quite the contrary, if Atlanta were *not* trying to get money and improve our standing in the country/world, I would think we were doing something wrong.  I would certainly move to impeach any elected official who told me that we didn&#8217;t need economic growth because we had &#8220;soul.&#8221;</p>
<p>Back in the early nineties when South Central L.A.  was all the rage in music and movies, I&#8217;d look at the depictions of senseless street violence and think to myself &#8220;Why would anyone with a choice want to live like that?&#8221;  And yet I met many relocated gang members who would wax poetically about how they missed the lifestyle and were it not for family/jail/baby, they would never have left.</p>
<p>I can only speak from my perspective, but none of that resonates with me.  Being able to keep your dignity in hard times is an asset, but I see no virtue in suffering for suffering&#8217;s sake.  But just because I can&#8217;t see the appeal in a certainly lifestyle doesn&#8217;t mean that there is none.</p>
<p>And I suspect the same goes for you.  Atlanta&#8217;s culture doesn&#8217;t resonate with you as strongly as Detroit&#8217;s does, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that Atlanta has no culture.  And it doesn&#8217;t mean that those of us who find our niche here are any less resilient or soulful.  </p>
<p>I wish you the best in your relocation back to &#8220;The D.&#8221;  (Motown for us noobz.)</p>
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		<title>By: SimoneSweets</title>
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		<dc:creator>SimoneSweets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 02:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool post!!! Although I havent lived in the city limits since I was a child, my fam resides there and I def party/hang in the city. The burbs has a vested interest in the city’s survival and I’ll always rep the D where ever I go. I love the city and will always support any endevors to bring it back to its former glory!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool post!!! Although I havent lived in the city limits since I was a child, my fam resides there and I def party/hang in the city. The burbs has a vested interest in the city’s survival and I’ll always rep the D where ever I go. I love the city and will always support any endevors to bring it back to its former glory!</p>
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